Sandra Jackson: Good morning.
Olivier Smith: sondra how you doing.
Sandra Jackson: i'm well how are you.
Olivier Smith: Oh i'm doing good it's it's Monday.
Sandra Jackson: Is Monday.
Olivier Smith: Monday yeah.
Olivier Smith: Well, it was a good weekend ahead long long weekend, so I can't complain and I was off on Friday, so my birthday and.
Sandra Jackson: All happy belated birthday.
Olivier Smith: Thank you, thank you yeah another another year younger.
Sandra Jackson: Did you do anything special.
Olivier Smith: No, not really we We actually had a little my wife was as actually Swedish so it's a happens to be mid summer, it was mid summer on Friday so.
Olivier Smith: We had a we had a little party on Saturday we had you know we get guests over for kind of traditional Swedish mid summer celebration so yeah we didn't make too much of a first for a birthday, but you know it's fun to have some friends and hang out.
Olivier Smith: Nice white flowers and new hair kind of thing.
Olivier Smith: I don't know if you noticed but we're all Sandra Jackson on the call.
Sandra Jackson: I don't know why that keeps happening I I don't know how to.
Sandra Jackson: spell except for what they did before, which was renamed rename it, let me see.
Sandra Jackson: Because all i'm doing is setting up the meeting in the PCC so i'm gonna have to ask.
Sandra Jackson: i'll have to ask the the elephants team about it.
Olivier Smith: yeah I mean it seems, for some reason, it seems like what we're doing is we're all getting sort of.
Olivier Smith: we're getting we're not we're not getting an individual link or something I don't it's it's a bit strange, you know who else did we have on the call now that I don't know who we are we're also on.
Sandra Jackson: you're on mute sondra.
Olivier Smith: yeah exactly other song you're on mute.
Yan: Yes.
Yan: The name is not me.
Olivier Smith: yeah no we're we're all noticing, we have the.
Olivier Smith: We have the same for the moment well.
Olivier Smith: I wonder if I rename myself here does that going to apply to my next call as well.
Sandra Jackson: That I don't know.
Olivier Smith: All right.
Olivier Smith: This could be this could be an interesting that here i'm going to change my name, so that we at least know it's me and all right.
Olivier Smith: yeah it'd be awesome sondra if you can you can.
Olivier Smith: Have a look at that and see what's going on, I don't know what that you know what would that could be it's a bit strange isn't it.
Sandra Jackson: it's very strange and I just wonder if any was anyone else's well, I mean I did tell you guys, you were the guinea pigs okay.
Olivier Smith: So yeah exactly.
Olivier Smith: I mean.
Sandra Jackson: You know, will.
Sandra Jackson: Maybe it's absolute it just needs to be fixed.
Sandra Jackson: You know i'll check around and see if anyone else has is experiencing the same thing.
Olivier Smith: Well somebody's got to do it right.
Olivier Smith: Oh, see you go to see my screen now right.
Yes.
Olivier Smith: alright.
Olivier Smith: So I know that mark is going to be absent because he's on holiday so i'm just going to go ahead and.
Olivier Smith: I always feel like I don't want people to think like we're giving them a hard time because they're not in the meeting but.
Olivier Smith: Otherwise they don't get they don't get the meeting minutes so let's give a few more minutes, hopefully we'll have a.
Olivier Smith: Few more joiners.
Okay.
Olivier Smith: I certainly have a I think we had we had a meeting last week we had to reschedule and we didn't get many people SOS myself, and I think you're right, we were the only two so we had to cancel the call but.
Olivier Smith: I know that was a reschedule and that's sometimes becomes a little bit difficult.
Sandra Jackson: But nice holiday.
Olivier Smith: yeah but you know I mean like I know also Lincoln Lincoln did mentioned to us, you recall, when we said we were going to change the time.
Olivier Smith: He said that you know he could have some challenges during the summer, because he had something that was some kind of project or something that was ongoing.
Olivier Smith: So you know, he may not always be able to join us.
Olivier Smith: But I was hoping cody.
Olivier Smith: mark will generally be here, I think, and then kind of garage would also be great we have some updates, so I really wanted to get everyone up to speed here.
Sandra Jackson: Let me slack a few folks and see if there.
Olivier Smith: yeah see where people are at.
Olivier Smith: Well, I tell you what I think we're good six minutes into this, I think we're probably not going to get if there's anybody they're going to be late joiners so.
Olivier Smith: Probably will will end up as having kind of a short meeting today but.
Olivier Smith: If it's OK, with everyone else, I think, maybe, what I can at least do is make sure everyone knows what i'm thinking in terms of next steps, what what sort of what work is ahead of us and i've kind of I think we have really two main areas.
Olivier Smith: So maybe just talk about that, and then we can always pick it up again next week, when we have a few more people.
Sandra Jackson: Okay.
Olivier Smith: make sense.
Olivier Smith: Okay, all right, well, I guess, I should be thunder you can add this as well right So if you can get mine just making sure we've got all the people who we typically have on here gives us cody as well, and I think.
Olivier Smith: yep kind of garage it's probably one more.
Olivier Smith: Okay, so what I was thinking, I mean a little bit part of this was since we've had a bit of time since the last meeting.
Olivier Smith: i've been thinking a little bit about a structure of our of our calls, and I think it would be useful for us to have us a standing.
Olivier Smith: In on each weekly meeting that we have these two these two items on the agenda, so these are kind of extending points on the agenda, which is to review open action items which I think we generally have been doing that.
Olivier Smith: But I think we need to be a bit more diligent about also reviewing issues and get lab and so, if you just bear with me for a second.
Olivier Smith: I am going to just quickly go to our.
Olivier Smith: repo here.
Olivier Smith: you're still seeing my screen right.
Olivier Smith: Yes, okay great.
Olivier Smith: We go, we had a issue board yeah so we had a this board here was created, I know that Lincoln created this a while ago, so we have this board with sort of open.
Olivier Smith: Issues that we have said, you know one point of time we said, this is something we want to, we want to address we've got some things in progress anything in review and then we have a few closed items here.
Olivier Smith: I think I mentioned this before, but in my mind the way you know when we're working with issues it's it's something that we want to affect our program documentation right so it's anything that lives in the repo then we're using issues to track the progress of those.
Olivier Smith: Everything else is kind of just action items, you know in our meeting minutes so that's kind of why I see this as being.
Olivier Smith: These two different points, right here one action items, be the ones that are typically here, and then the other one, are you know anything that we have in the issues.
Olivier Smith: and get lab and I, and I know, for example, without thinking here i'd like just to make sure we understand define the bads lifespan laughs lifespan I mean i'm not sure how much.
Olivier Smith: let's see here yeah, so there is some texts in here i'm not going to do this now, since we're only three of us, but.
Olivier Smith: I think we just want to make sure we understand what these what these issues are related to, and then you know if there's anybody who's willing to take you know start to work on some of the issues, otherwise.
Olivier Smith: You know, we don't make a whole lot of progress if we don't we don't even look at what's what's sitting there in the repo does that make sense.
Yan: Yes.
Sandra Jackson: Yes, it makes sense.
Olivier Smith: All right, excellent.
Olivier Smith: Alright, so those would be the like, you said that sondra to be the standing items on each meeting I think that's going to be a great way.
Olivier Smith: And then, for this meeting, and I think we'll probably do it next meeting as well, these are kind of what I think are the three big items, you know that I think we need to be focusing on and I, you know jaan I want to hear your thoughts to if you if.
Olivier Smith: You think you.
If you agree.
Olivier Smith: But one of the things we started off with a few weeks, and you know, maybe a few months ago, even was starting to plan for our badges for 2022.
Olivier Smith: And when we do that, you know we, we need to be thinking about timing, we need to be thinking about which releases, are we going to use because we're dependent on all the other projects, whether it's advocate.
Olivier Smith: Or if its own APP you know we wouldn't, we need to understand the timing of those releases, so that we can figure out where it makes sense for us to launch any you know any updates to our badges.
Olivier Smith: And so, and along with that also we have the question of what badges do we offer.
Olivier Smith: And so i'm going to show you a picture i've shown this before Yana you've seen this we had I showed this a little bit at our last call.
Olivier Smith: With with own up the CNS Task Force going to move my picture here tell me if that works or not, do you see that still.
Sandra Jackson: Yes, I see it, okay.
Olivier Smith: yeah sometimes when I move stuff across my screen it doesn't work so i've created this one slide and what I what I really want to do is, I want to actually kind of create a.
Olivier Smith: Little working sort of call it a task force, but maybe it's just a it's an action item that I would like to get some help.
Olivier Smith: From from the CBC and what you see here is basically kind of a planning right for 2022 planning the antiquated shirt badges.
Olivier Smith: And on the left hand side, you see, we have different categories of badges we offer which is infrastructure workload and eventually we will offer some kind of lab badge.
Olivier Smith: And what i've started to do is start thinking about so what's the badges name.
Olivier Smith: I you know I, to be honest with you, I don't even know what we call our badge I mean if you were to get a badge what does it actually say, and I think these are some of the kind of questions, we need to.
Olivier Smith: We need to go to that level of detail, to make sure we're in agreement, but i'm, these are all working names from now so, and if the infrastructure and a vdi infrastructure, we have a you know cloud native infrastructure, and these are kind of our our one and our to.
Olivier Smith: Infrastructure badges.
Olivier Smith: Then we have workload, which of course we have the BF and I wish kind of garage was here because we've been talking, you know a few weeks back that we can only now support.
Olivier Smith: tosca based and not heat based, and I see, sometimes we keep talking about both as if we're going to continue to offer both of them, and I want to make sure that we understand.
Olivier Smith: If the testing platform is no longer going to be maintained, then we can't offer the heat based.
Olivier Smith: Via you know workload test, so I just want to make sure that we are aligned on that that we're not we haven't misunderstood something, because it basically means one less badges than what we we know what we have previously offered around DNS okay.
Olivier Smith: And then, when it comes to see an Apps you know, this is the big tbd to be determined, this is the one that I think we're all trying to figure out what can we offer and i've just put in here that I think there's different kinds of badges that we could be offering.
Olivier Smith: could be, we could be doing something cloud native best practices, and I say opinionated here because we already know the cnc F has just launched their.
Olivier Smith: Best practices, you know cf certified CNS program so there's no point for us to do the same thing unless we're offering a different view of what we think is is cloud native.
Olivier Smith: So that's one particular option if we thought that that made sense, personally, I think the second one is maybe more relevant, which is a.
Olivier Smith: What are the requirements for a CNS to enter operate with this cloud native infrastructure that we know that we've specified up above right, we have a cloud native Cooper daddy's based infrastructure.
Olivier Smith: Do we want to inform vendors of some of the interoperability requirements and allow them to test and badge their products to show that they play nicely with that infrastructure, I think this one, personally, would make a lot of sense.
Olivier Smith: And then the last one is you know management orchestration compliant and I.
Olivier Smith: It took me a little while I think we've already talked about this once before, but.
Olivier Smith: I didn't really understand over here, this would be enough bad just not so much about you know what are the best practices for vm so it's more about what are the requirements that you need.
Olivier Smith: To a to conform to so that own APP can orchestrate you know can can basically package.
Olivier Smith: That your packaging it in a way that you can you know install and and be orchestrated by own APP.
Olivier Smith: And I think that's also an opportunity, you can be doing that for own APP here as well, and so yawn and kind of garage and myself had a meeting last week with the CNS Task Force and I think it was very productive.
Olivier Smith: What do you think young did you also have a similar feeling.
Yan: um I think we you.
Yan: analyze the potential approach here, and from the owner side.
Yan: According the discussion last week we see.
Yan: On their behalf, now has different to have orchestration flow and also ran a mission of the answer there's no resources to create as the test to suit, so I think from on that side, maybe.
Yan: We include the same.
Yan: magic bands on the orchestration compliant ash.
Yan: Is a NATO typical.
Olivier Smith: yeah okay yeah yeah exactly I think so, you know that that's true I think they for sondra since you weren't in that call I mean just general information, you know they.
Olivier Smith: The input we got was there are required, there is a belief that there are requirements, now that are you know that that would describe what a cf needs to be able to do in order to.
Olivier Smith: To be orchestrated by now there is a there wasn't common understanding of that until that meeting, so there are some people who have some very strong opinions that well we.
Olivier Smith: Have the requirements, but we don't have as the tests and we don't have the test, because we don't have any resources to write the tests so it's.
Olivier Smith: it's a it's almost like a call to you know to Member support to help build tests so that's one thing that ronnie who was leading that call will.
Olivier Smith: Take as an action and we said, you know I know i've written and I know y'all I also saw you wrote.
Olivier Smith: I think we've suggested, maybe we can come back in a few weeks time and get an update because you know it may not be ready.
Olivier Smith: This time around, but on the other hand, there's only a few tests are only a few requirements, so the question is how hard, would it be to you know how much of an effort is it to build those tests, I don't know yet.
Olivier Smith: But also, I mean this is maybe a question also kind of garage I don't know how much he is involved on a daily basis with own APP work i'm assuming he's probably more involved than I am.
Olivier Smith: But anyway, so I think that speaks to the third point here I just put own APP em co I mean this is another area, these are just examples and then maybe i'll just put that here.
Olivier Smith: And, and one of the things we also made that we brought up, and I think this is important for everyone is that we don't tell you know anecdote assured etiquette assure the.
Olivier Smith: Applicant assured is not we are not really deciding you know which projects badge you know it's the project's themselves that really are.
Olivier Smith: meant to be driving that right own APP should be telling us that we are now ready to do, seeing that.
Olivier Smith: Or we are now ready, you know to do another project says we we want to do something for em co or and we need to obviously keep getting the word out that we are, we are available for any elephant project really to provide you know that kind of conformance and validation.
Olivier Smith: You know program we have the processes.
Olivier Smith: But we're not going to write the test so i'm not going to decide which requirements are are the ones that are relevant that's really part of the that's what the communities, each of the other communities needs to be helping and identifying on their own so.
Olivier Smith: This is kind of.
Olivier Smith: This document here, I think, before we can offer a you know, a 20 instead of 2022 batches I think we need to answer sort of on the highest level, the questions in this chart.
Olivier Smith: So even.
Sandra Jackson: I think I have some of the answers i'm going back to something he said he said, what is the bad say yo.
Sandra Jackson: Just going on to off the top of my head the badges basically just say the category and and what it is that they.
Sandra Jackson: They tested whether it's Vienna for this infrastructure, whether it's workflow it has that and I think when you scroll over and click on whatever it is, then it goes into what they what their.
Sandra Jackson: Their product is.
Olivier Smith: yeah so you know wonder if it's possible to get a I know that you know it's been a while, because I know what part of this is that we had something that was going to be activated right, it was the.
Olivier Smith: The landscape right, I know it's not activating until we actually have sorry i've got dogs barking in the background, give me two things sorry.
Olivier Smith: Apologies I had somebody was delivering something so it was a lot of noisy dogs.
Sandra Jackson: and hear anything.
Olivier Smith: Well that's good then might yeah my I guess my microphone manages to mute out some of the ambient noise.
Olivier Smith: Yes, I guess, my question would be is if we know what those that has two point I think the rollover and it was a while ago, since we did that you know we were kind of looking at how will it look.
Olivier Smith: Can you help point me to where to look to see.
Olivier Smith: Because then basically what it sounds like is you, you still need to figure out whether or not it says, you know this is infrastructure and then it says Navi or if it says anika infrastructure or one or i'm just trying to understand exactly what the naming.
Olivier Smith: You know.
Sandra Jackson: I can, I can find a week because remember the only reason the verifications have on the landscape is not active is because we haven't had anyone to actually go through, and we didn't want just to empty tab up.
Olivier Smith: There yeah yeah.
Olivier Smith: No, I totally honest, I do understand that I understand that and that's my point I don't know I don't know where to look and until it's activated I don't know where else to look to get the answers you know what is it going to look like because I just wanted this to be accurate.
Olivier Smith: So that as we write, for example, if you go and start reading our documentation, whatever it says there I want it to be also matching what you know any kind of.
Olivier Smith: Images would look like or any kind of landscape might look like that it says the same thing that we're using the same terminology, I guess.
Olivier Smith: What i'm making trying to make sure so so basically that and then I also think the these these are summaries which i've copied from you know either documentation or someplace which is basically describing.
Olivier Smith: What that badge is meant what it is right, what does it mean, and I personally think again we're not we can't do this in this meeting, but the thinking is that I think.
Olivier Smith: A few of us should review these descriptions and make them, you know much more clear what does this mean.
Olivier Smith: And let me give you an example here, this is his bns compliance take the vn f's workload.
Olivier Smith: be enough compliance verifies the DNS template files conformed to the requirements documented in own APP vpn and Fr que te s basic cloud capabilities project.
Olivier Smith: That doesn't say a whole lot and i'm not being critical to whoever wrote it, but I think we need to, we need to come up with a top line summary which is meaningful.
Olivier Smith: And a person at a company looking at this as a wait a minute, this is something i'm interested in showing my company, you know if you're not involved, you would probably not know what this means.
Olivier Smith: So that's that's what I want to do so i'm going to go back now to you know, having shown this to everyone, I just wanted to get you know we're I know there are only three of us, so I just wanted to show you where that document is going, and if you think about this.
Olivier Smith: call for example working session, basically, what I would like to do and we're to a few people today.
Olivier Smith: But i'd like to arrange maybe a one hour call with anyone who's interested to work with me on that.
Olivier Smith: You know so far on this one think about you know what are the badges let's get the names harmonized let's get the descriptions harmonized and then we can come back and present it for the group.
Olivier Smith: So, but I need people who want to you know who want to kind of contribute I don't want to do it it's just putting a document you know, in a Google drive or.
Olivier Smith: On a wiki and saying hey everybody, you know work on it i'd rather us have a discussion because I think it would help iron out some of those details yeah exactly.
Olivier Smith: So we'll do that we'll let's try calling that next time again let's see if we can get in just because I think that's the first step.
Olivier Smith: And, and I think these two, to be honest with you in last week, when I was thinking about this as two different meetings I think they're they're really you know it's to your point planning for badges yep.
Olivier Smith: Exactly it's the the timing and the badges and what they mean, so I think that I can I can look at this to sondra, but I think that that's exactly the point.
Olivier Smith: And then there's a separate thing I just go ahead and move to this one here now because there's a separate item that I wanted to talk about.
Olivier Smith: And I thought about this too, you know so under we've been talking about this for a while and i've been trying to think about how do we do this in the best way, I think the same thing here i'd like to have like a just a one hour session for anyone who's interested to work with me.
Olivier Smith: And let me show you i'm going to show on the screen here.
Olivier Smith: This is our you know lf networking verification page, and this is what it looks like.
Olivier Smith: So if you remind ourselves, you know it's a it's a description here at the top, with some explanation of what some of the key benefits are for service providers or vendors and then it says follow these steps.
Olivier Smith: I think we, we have a little work to do, down here personally I think we should you know, should be saying we offer different types of badges and that's here, you have the anecdote shared infrastructure workload and lab.
Olivier Smith: And these are not you know we were talking about the Sunday you can't click on the so it's not like you get more details but eventually I get to would is that, where it'll be linked when one once we start having badges.
Sandra Jackson: Where i'm sorry where what will be linked the.
Olivier Smith: yeah I will be, will you be able to see vendors badges by clicking on here on infrastructure.
Sandra Jackson: I don't think, so I think it's it's actually the verification tab that we are waiting to for for it to go live.
Sandra Jackson: That information be housed.
There oh.
Sandra Jackson: yeah oh you mean.
Olivier Smith: there'll be a whole menu item that's not here to visible today.
Sandra Jackson: I believe so.
Olivier Smith: Okay, and that's fine so here, then this would be a good example to what I was talking about before it says antiquated shirt infrastructure.
Olivier Smith: It doesn't you know again there's not enough information here in my mind to say, well, what does that mean where can I learn more.
Olivier Smith: Because there should be something here that's helping to point you to our you know to our documentation or to other documentation, say, well, what does that mean well you know what does that badge me, because unless you're very actively involved do you understand.
Olivier Smith: And that's what i'm trying to get to the point where I think you know, we need to.
Olivier Smith: I think we need to get the word out a little bit you know help people understand what kind of badges we're offering both you know both mark and myself are having conversations now with some of the some of the different companies we've mentioned before, some of the hyper scanners.
Olivier Smith: About and a kid and the kid assured and you know it would be good if we have something that's easy to sort of navigate and follow.
Olivier Smith: And then, this last point here, which is to get started, how do you do this, I think you know we've talked about this, we have these steps.
Olivier Smith: And I think we can do a little work to make it easier for people to get started with the process of.
Olivier Smith: You know, seeking a badge in any of these categories so that's that's basically, what I want to do with this right here, I want to you know, maybe a one hour session for anyone who wants to.
Olivier Smith: To to dig deeper into this particular topic with me rather than trying to do it on Monday CBC calls that's what I was going to propose to people.
Olivier Smith: Obviously we're not enough here so you'll have to say the same thing and we can just you know we can reiterate this next next week, if we've got a little bit better attendance.
Olivier Smith: Will you know we might be may be able to get some.
Sandra Jackson: And I don't want to say, out of a week we did have we used to have a recurring I think it was like every other week and a kid assured.
Sandra Jackson: meeting, we can put that back into place, there was a time slot I think it happened, like later in the week.
Sandra Jackson: I want to say look happy wife on Thursdays, or something.
Olivier Smith: yeah you're right.
Sandra Jackson: I think you're right, I think.
Olivier Smith: What what what didn't make sense to me for that one sondra and double check that one if you have any chance if you have any ability to sort of go back and look at what that was but.
Olivier Smith: I got the impression that was kind of mark and Lincoln and maybe maybe heather but I don't remember the rest of us having the opportunity to join that you know, like as a working session for anybody who need to so.
Olivier Smith: But I like that idea I like the idea of maybe you know, rather than having to try to book each week but let's let's first maybe focus on these first two, and we can use the session and say does that work, because I think we need a little bit more time if we want to sort of progress things.
Olivier Smith: I don't think we can do it always on on just on the Monday CBC call.
Sandra Jackson: Right correct so that was that was for leadership or whatever, but I mean you're the Chair now, so we can invite whoever whomever you know to like you said anyone who's interested in discussing these things and get those meetings back, but I have put them a hiatus because.
Sandra Jackson: It just didn't seem reasonable at the time.
Sandra Jackson: yeah them.
Sandra Jackson: Well, certainly get them back in rotation.
Olivier Smith: yeah well let's do this Sunday because i'm thinking also like you're with you on on the call now I don't remember what time those calls, where do you remember what they were sondra.
Sandra Jackson: um let me see hold on yeah because I think I, you know how you have ghosts meeting pop ups, even though i've canceled this thing is still comes up on my calendar.
Sandra Jackson: will show it still shows on my calendar, so let me see and a kid.
too easy.
Sandra Jackson: And it can assure.
Sandra Jackson: Also, I found something I would like.
Sandra Jackson: So they they were bi weekly and they happened around.
Sandra Jackson: looks like.
Sandra Jackson: on Thursdays, so they were on Thursdays from 10 1030 to 11 that's Eastern time that i'm giving.
Olivier Smith: mm hmm.
Sandra Jackson: Well, they were only a half hour um yeah and they happen every other Thursday, but again, whatever you want to put into rotation, we can do that.
Olivier Smith: Okay, let me do this i'm going to suggest this let's let's let's hold on that one until next week and then and i'm realizing right now as we're sitting there talking next next Monday is the fourth of July so we're going to have to.
Olivier Smith: cancel that one if we ordered it yeah let's see do we have it in the calendar, now we do yeah we have a CBC week, the meeting on the fourth to, we need to cancel that one.
Sandra Jackson: I think, for that one, I will just send a note.
Olivier Smith: Okay.
Sandra Jackson: To say that that meeting is cancel because but i'm not going to actually take it off the calendar because that's one of the bugs that in in the.
Sandra Jackson: Project control Center where I don't know if they fixed it if they fixed it out i'll take it off the calendar it's not because you know they canceled the whole series again.
Olivier Smith: Okay yeah that's not that's not great, in fact, i'm sitting why we're sitting here with the meeting.
Olivier Smith: In the meeting i've just got a ping from Scott saying he doesn't have the details for the call so would, could you could you just check.
Olivier Smith: With make sure that people actually have it in their calendar, because otherwise, you know that might be could be part of why we're having you know some issues.
Olivier Smith: He he's lost, I know what I know what happens it's like when these meetings, sometimes like it's like you're part of a group list.
Olivier Smith: And if you haven't signed up to that group lift if you've only gotten it in the past, because somebody forward it to you, you may not be getting the the new invitation so Scott.
Olivier Smith: You know Scott doesn't seem to have it, for whatever reason.
Olivier Smith: or he's just missed it, you know it has shown up but it hasn't.
Sandra Jackson: And I am.
Sandra Jackson: Looking for it now to share with him, I think, maybe he just didn't accept it because it would have been through as.
Olivier Smith: was really weird I had a bunch of issues myself, I mean I was obviously looking for them, and when I accepted them they didn't go into my calendar, I had to go back and actually accept them again to get them to go in my account for whatever reason I don't.
Olivier Smith: Okay yeah I don't I don't know what was going on, but any case I mean maybe we just you know.
Olivier Smith: I don't know if you have access to everyone's emails, but if you if you maybe we're not that many of us, I mean there's it's Lincoln it's, mark you know, mark you know and cody and kind of garage just making sure that we've got it in our small group.
Olivier Smith: And Scott, as well, obviously yeah maybe it's gotten to be on this list as well.
Sandra Jackson: As on the list I didn't know that for sure.
Olivier Smith: yeah no I well, I meant he needed to add him to the meeting minutes here, so we also got the meeting minutes.
Actually.
Olivier Smith: All right, well let's do this summer i'm almost going to suggest that we close this meeting, because I know it's late prion I don't really think we have too much more to discuss the two points I wanted to just mention mainly so people can be thinking a little bit about this too.
Olivier Smith: But you know now we're not we're not we're not gonna have a meeting next week so we'll have to have a meeting you know after that.
Olivier Smith: So hopefully we can get everyone, you know, on board again here.
Sandra Jackson: Okay, and I have one Okay, I can share this next time then.
Sandra Jackson: Because you were saying I was going to refresh your memory about how it kind of looks I found you a link for the for the tab that's not.
Sandra Jackson: Active verification tab I see it, the next time, this is no big deal I just try to remember to leave it outside so i'll have it.
Olivier Smith: yeah Would you mind sending that over to me on like just on a on slack because I would like to look because, if I can progress that.
Olivier Smith: You know that document that I was showing you that little one page PowerPoint if there's anything I can use their to already be updating, you know that would be, I think that just saves saves us time.
Olivier Smith: If it's something you can share.
Sandra Jackson: yeah let me check and see if I can share that's, the only thing because it's not, I think I should be able to since you are the Chair.
Sandra Jackson: It just went in you know it's just not for public knowledge, but.
Sandra Jackson: it's not live yet, but I think I can but i'll double check and send it to you.
Olivier Smith: Okay yeah appreciate that and again man, you know, even if you just want to give me a.
Olivier Smith: screen give me a couple of screenshots that's fine too because mainly what i'm just trying to do is just get the make sure that i've got the badge names correct.
Olivier Smith: I have the accurate names for the you know so that it reflects what we have there.
Sandra Jackson: Okay.
Right.
Olivier Smith: Okay.
Olivier Smith: So with that young is there anything else that you wanted to bring up or that you wanted that I may be missed.
Yan: hi I just.
Yan: want to.
Yan: ask you whether, is it possible to share the slides to me, and I can take some time to think about the related insurance.
Yan: Companies speak.
Olivier Smith: Yes, you, the one that I was showing you want the one slide that I was showing you what you'd like me to send them to you.
Yan: yeah yeah.
Olivier Smith: Okay sure i'll do that i'll do that i'll send it to you on email.
Yan: Okay, thank you sure.
Olivier Smith: Okay, all right.
Olivier Smith: Then I think we're done anything sondra you want to capture before we close off.
Sandra Jackson: And now I don't think I have anything additional.
Olivier Smith: I was going to ask you just down below here, if you look at verses notes from the meeting down here's where i'm thinking to put action items in here, I was going to actually can, is it possible, can I know it's like part of that.
Olivier Smith: Yet what your personal projects faith groups called now, is there any way that we can actually provide the link or is that actually always going to be individual link.
Sandra Jackson: i'll see if I can put the link there yeah.
Olivier Smith: yeah I just think it would help people if they can you know they can get connected to that.
Sandra Jackson: yeah i'll see after we hang up as I can put the link there.
Olivier Smith: Okay perfect all right.
Olivier Smith: Thank you.
Sandra Jackson: Thank you.
Sandra Jackson: Okay.
Yan: bye bye bye.