08:39:36 From Cédric Ollivier : We are writing far too much in Wiki. Wiki should be a first step refering the doc in tree. 08:40:09 From Cédric Ollivier : And we are mixing wiki and project management.. 08:40:45 From Catherine Lefevre : should not the documentation be hosted where any user, developer will look first concerning a particular release? Release note ? 08:41:34 From Catherine Lefevre : it would be interested what other LF open source communities are doing? Maybe get a TAC recommendation? 08:41:49 From Cédric Ollivier : I like the fact that the release notes are currently in tree. 08:43:31 From Guillaume Lambert : Right, Cédric, - that's exactly the point - too many things are on the wiki and should be on the official documentation in a more maintenable format 08:44:00 From Cédric Ollivier : How to run spellcheck, linkcheck in wiki ;) 08:44:13 From Cédric Ollivier : +1 08:44:19 From Szymon Gołębiewski : +1 08:45:17 From Morgan Richomme : people jumping to other projects never clean their wiki pages, pages are never deprecated..that is why we got lots of misleading pages in wiki because no one feel really responsbile for the pages. The PTL are responsible for the consistency of the official documentation that is versioned, it is impossible to have the full view on a wiki, which is fully open by definition. 08:45:32 From Ciaran Johnston (Ericsson) : We made a TSC decision on this, did we not? 08:45:37 From Ciaran Johnston (Ericsson) : https://lists.onap.org/g/onap-tsc-vote/topic/71405726#1381 08:46:37 From Cédric Ollivier : Even worse when all good refs in wiki are squeezed between meetings minutes, votes, events... 08:48:16 From Catherine Lefevre : Ciaran, you are right but this topic today is not only about ONAP 08:49:08 From Ciaran Johnston (Ericsson) : Yes, sorry Catherine - just trying to show some prior art on a proposal for a potential split between wiki and under source control 09:04:35 From Ram Krishna Verma : https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Policy+Project+Team+Developer+Contribution+Requirements 09:05:06 From Catherine Lefevre : thank you Ram - can I add this topic sharing to ONAP ptl call on 1/8? 09:06:25 From Ram Krishna Verma : Yes, sounds good 09:06:34 From Catherine Lefevre : thanks Ram 09:15:09 From Catherine Lefevre : would it help to define template doc? 09:15:35 From Catherine Lefevre : so all projects will document the same way 09:16:10 From Cédric Ollivier : -1 when managing pull request dependencies 09:17:19 From Catherine Lefevre : +1 on Sylvain proposal 09:18:18 From Cédric Ollivier : gerrit -d 09:18:34 From Catherine Lefevre : i believe the architecture subcommittee defined template that the project follows to define their components 09:19:00 From Catherine Lefevre : i think for the release note, template also works 09:19:05 From Eric Debeau : yes, but RST 09:19:22 From Catherine Lefevre : so we should extend the concept to other docs that we need to create 09:19:37 From Eric Debeau : yes, templates are good, but enough to faciliatte entry point 09:19:50 From Catherine Lefevre : I agree it will not attract more contributors since we will ask the project team 09:20:02 From Catherine Lefevre : entry point - release note 09:20:14 From Catherine Lefevre : first thing that people are seing 09:20:28 From Catherine Lefevre : seeing 09:22:13 From Cédric Ollivier : @sylvain Each project should be able to select its best pr management :) 09:22:57 From Catherine Lefevre : thank you Eric, Guillaume for this session 09:22:57 From Sylvain Desbureaux (Orange) : @cedric of course! But today, it’s the contrary on LFN: we have to use Gerrit 09:23:10 From Catherine Lefevre : thanks Andreas 09:23:12 From Cédric Ollivier : @Sylvain for the best of OPNFV and ODL :) 09:23:35 From Cédric Ollivier : @Sylvain +1 to let ONAP switch to Gitlab if it pleases the community 09:23:57 From Sylvain Desbureaux (Orange) : Gitlab or GitHub, I don’t care ;) 09:24:17 From Cédric Ollivier : Github is not that good when managing 2 concurrent pull request 09:24:21 From Cédric Ollivier : see anuket. 09:28:49 From Catherine Lefevre : can we make an assessment about what it is missing per project basis? 09:29:07 From Catherine Lefevre : and define the min. baseline? 09:29:11 From Cédric Ollivier : Thx Guillaume, Eric et al. 09:29:19 From Catherine Lefevre : we could then try to have interns to help us